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HSF Weekly Meeting #148, 18 October, 2018

Present/Contributors: Graeme Stewart, Andrea Valassi, Pere Mato, Daniel Elvira, Liz Sexton-Kennedy, Serhan Mete, David Lange, Ed Moyse, Heather Gray, Ian Collier, James Amundsen, Michel Jouvin, Tommaso Boccali

News, general matters

• “US Research Software Sustainability Institute (URSSI) conceptualization project, looking for your opinions about needs in the US research software community”. 10-15 minute survey. Dan Katz confirmed this is mainly for the US community.

HSF/WLCG/OSG workshop

• We made the first official announcement to ‘save the date’ (18-22 March 2019).
  • Please forward to your experiments/communities.
• First ideas of topics we need to cover are in a Google Doc.
  • Comments and suggestions welcome - please check we did not miss anything major.
• Next organising meeting probably next week.
  • We should get at least a stub agenda up soon and plan to open registration soon.
• Topics also announced at the GDB yesterday.

New Working Groups

• Mandate was put on the HSF Website.
• Call for convenors was renewed, until 29 October.
  • Several new nominations received; this is the up-to-date list.
  • If there is a need to choose between the nominations, HSF Coordination will be asked to do so.
• Stubs for new working groups added to the website.

Generators Software Computing Workshop

• Indico agenda.
  • Timetable has been filled in with a lot more detail on the presentations and confirmed speakers.
• 33 people registered.
• Planning a hackathon event on Wednesday 28th, exact topics to be decided with input from a short survey.
• Comments about licensing?
  • It’s important, but not the “critical” item.
  • TBD, so a topic for the next organisers meeting.

Activity updates

Licensing

• Still hoping to meet with FastJet authors in the week of the Generators Workshop.
  • ATLAS, CMS input.
  • Input from OpenLab about companies like IBM not agreeing to run at their facilities a code which is GPL.

Training

• Graeme, Davide and James met to discuss ATLAS follow-up after last week’s training focused discussions.
  • Definite interest in holding a ‘StarterKit’ like event in advance of the next ATLAS induction week/software tutorial at CERN.
    • Dates being followed up.
  • Core skills of interest: Git, Shell, Python, C++.
  • Following up with Sudhir and Pete for FIRST-HEP collaboration.
• Please comment on David’s training survey.

Packaging

• Due to a sparse agenda and various clashes, next meeting will be 7 November.

Software Development

• Would like to organise a meeting in November on monitoring tools.

Software Forum

• Next meeting is HEP analysis in the Numpy ecosystem, 7 November.
• Topics for next year - please suggest!

PyHEP

• Continuing to make contact with neutrino community.
• See Software Forum topic for next meeting!
• Website update in the pipeline (Eduardo) to give a better overview of activities.

Technical Notes

• Eduardo and Andy McNab following up on DOIs for some of the technical notes.

CWP

• General Matters and Roadmap

  • CSBS review comments.
  • Michel had the first look at the changes needed and created a GitHub Issue to track.
    • Comments initially appear to be minor, but actually many of them will require some significant work.
      • References for statements where we know that they will be very hard to get.
    • Suggestion to re-discuss with the CSBS editors as the paper is hard to review in the standard way.
      • As this is a community paper it’s really impossible to re-iterate with the whole community regarding significant changes.
      • Perhaps we propose to publish a lightly modified version or not at all?
  • Proposal - we should make a response/rebuttal of the reviewers comments by the end of the month. Categorise:
    • Easy to fix and doable.
    • Hard to fix but doable.
    • Not fixable.
  • Have a meeting of the HSF Ed Board by end of the month.

AOB

• HSF Logo in vector format - reminder of action on Benedikt.
• http://hepsoftware.org/ was fixed, thanks to Torre (GitHub issue).
• Website was restructured a bit to add the new working group stubs.
  • Graeme suggests we now split “activities” and “working groups” to avoid having too long a menu in the drop down.
  • Absorb “Get involved!” link into the “About” dropdown to avoid the navigation bar from getting too wide.
  • Will be developed as a PR for comment.
    • (Turns out that absolute internal site links make website previews hard, but not obvious how to fix that.)
• Next week Graeme is away, so need a volunteer to chair the meeting.
  • Pere can do this.
• At the GDB yesterday there was a good talk about Dune software and computing by Ken Herner.

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